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« on: July 28, 2010, 07:37:11 AM »

Hi,

I got to thinking and started to really wonder...where is the line? What is considered too distracting? What is too fancy?

Subjective, yes. However, would certain finish or body shape bother or distract you or your congregation???

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 08:01:52 AM »

I don't think there is any finish or shape that would be bad, but I could imagine that there could be a finish/shape that would be distracting.

You would have to go on your best judgment here. 

1.  I would say NO to any mirror pickguards.  You don't want to constantly be blinding the church members.
2.  I would also say NO to a 7 neck Hamer.  :^)
3.  I would say NO to the guitars with the pin-up girl stuck on the front.  Oh, and pentagrams.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 08:41:35 AM »

Sometimes I wonder if Gold finished guitar is...well Gold!

Indiana Jones did not drink out of GOLD cup, right?

Tyler Burning water is very cool...but finish can be sooo distracting, no?

SG speaks for it self.  haha

All the guitars I have GAS for right now, minus the SG. Trying to justify I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 09:08:53 AM »

Haha just get a McCarty with a beautiful trans burst finish and be done Smiley on a serious note...I would agree with astainback's 3 comments...that finish is really cool on the first guitar...I wouldn't be opposed to playing it in church. Maybe not a 27-fret Xiphos or ML...FWIW a ML just isn't suited for most church playing...I tried my old one...the pickups were made for hard rock and just sounded like poop for anything else, which was fine when I plugged into my halfstack and played alter bridge, flyleaf, etc, but not so much for lincoln brewster...just play what feels right in your hands and sounds good. Don't worry about it being "too pointy" or anything like that that people use to try and down your gear and tell you it "isn't appropriate" because it doesn't look right. Next they'll be tell you that it isn't appropriate to wear anything less than a suit and tie...(no offense bob)
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 09:31:13 AM »

Haha just get a McCarty with a beautiful trans burst finish and be done Smiley on a serious note...I would agree with astainback's 3 comments...that finish is really cool on the first guitar...I wouldn't be opposed to playing it in church. Maybe not a 27-fret Xiphos or ML...FWIW a ML just isn't suited for most church playing...I tried my old one...the pickups were made for hard rock and just sounded like poop for anything else, which was fine when I plugged into my halfstack and played alter bridge, flyleaf, etc, but not so much for lincoln brewster...just play what feels right in your hands and sounds good. Don't worry about it being "too pointy" or anything like that that people use to try and down your gear and tell you it "isn't appropriate" because it doesn't look right. Next they'll be tell you that it isn't appropriate to wear anything less than a suit and tie...(no offense bob)

Hi,

Thanks for the tip! I do have couple questions for you. You said that other guitars was equipped with pups that were for "hard rock". Isn't most stuff these days such as Hillsong Tomblin, etc etc pretty much hard rock? And even if they were not, isn't some of the guitars I posted such as SG, PRS, and even Tyler very modern with aggresive ouutput or tone? This is not a debate as I'm still learning about these stuff. I do appreciate your input.

Again, Thank you.









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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 09:44:46 AM »

Hi,

Thanks for the tip! I do have couple questions for you. You said that other guitars was equipped with pups that were for "hard rock". Isn't most stuff these days such as Hillsong Tomblin, etc etc pretty much hard rock? And even if they were not, isn't some of the guitars I posted such as SG, PRS, and even Tyler very modern with aggresive ouutput or tone? This is not a debate as I'm still learning about these stuff. I do appreciate your input.

Again, Thank you.











Okay, the pups in my old ML were dimarzios that were so hot that I couldn't get the amp to clean up rolling the volume knob back, on a setting that was perfectly clean with all my other guitars, it sounded like I had a mild distortion on. They were extremely harsh sounding with everything. I would call Hillsong, Tomlin, etc far from hard rock. While the guitars may have more aggressive tone, (and I'm a huge fan of PRS), I had a guitar that just didn't work for any of this stuff...the ML sounded phenomonal with when I played alter bridge stuff, but just didn't work at church...like I said, play what works for you Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 10:08:24 AM »

Mirrored pickguards can also mess up the white balance if you are on video.  Actually, anything that is bright white can do that, too.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 12:10:35 PM »

Two I would not -> the known technical problems (like white/mirrored/chrome finishes), and irreverant material (some words, pin-up girls, etc.)

Otherwise, I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought.  I've played several services with Jacksons (solid white, but we don't video Wink), and with a Goldtop LP.  It's really not a big thing.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 12:44:05 PM »

I think the Tyler finishes are way cool but I admit I think it's too distracting for worship.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 06:24:47 PM »

Very rarely do I care what my guitars look like.  I play in such a variety of venues, I just don't buy guitars that won't work almost everywhere- even my alpine white SG.   Tongue   I must admit, though, that if I know I'm going to be particularly aggressive musically, I will sometimes intentionally be conservative with my guitar choice.

Once there was a wedding for a couple in our church.  Bride's side was uber-conservative Christian.  Grandpa was even a Baptist preacher.  Groom's side was countrified rockers and wanted nothing to do with church.  In fact, they had to do some smooth talking just to get them to COME when the wedding was held in a church.  They decided they wanted to help grease the wheels for the groom's side by having a rock band instead of the traditional church music.  They also asked that we play some praise and worship tunes but also do some classic and 80's rock.  We had to walk a thin line, though, because the bride's side might take offense if we went too far.  Thus, I grabbed my Strat for the gig.  Pretty conservative, all things considered.  I would have grabbed my hollow body if not for the fact we were playing "Sweet Child of Mine" and I needed the deeper neck access.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 09:15:56 PM »

I have four guitars onstage with me, but they are not distracting with satanic symbols or whatever..LOL!

Just "plain jane" shapes.

1. PRS Modern Eagle 1 private stock with "swimming pool" finish.

2. Fender 57 reissue strat with two sunburst tone finish.

3. Godin LGS SA classical with 13 pin pickup I use for MIDI guitar and natural finish.

4. Taylor 312CE acoustic with natural finish.

Nothing much in the shapes or finishes to "offend" anyone as far as I am aware.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 02:46:33 AM »

If your guitar is too distracting to somebody, the problem isn't the guitar. 

I'd stay away from anything that is sinful: images depicting sex, drugs, Satan, etc.  But other than that, a little artwork never hurt nobody.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2010, 03:42:46 AM »

when it comes to talking about finishes, wouldn't most think that Droff's blue pearl starplayer?
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 06:57:01 AM »

The only bass I've not taken to church is my Flying V Bass, seems "inappropriate".
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 09:45:04 AM »

I'd not take any of the more 'extreme' metal guitars, nor guitars with messages on them (other than Christian that is) personally. But the Tyler Burning Water? I'd take it to P&W without a second thought. The SG? Again, would not blink. The PRS goldtop? I've owned more than one, never stopped me.

Mirror pickguards? Never thought about that, but no, that does not feel appropriate to me. Tools for the job; you don't wear spandex bike shorts to play P&W either, eh?  Sad Shocked
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